Canon RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM Z joins supply shortage list

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koenkooi said:
In theory this RF70-200Z + RF 2x extender would give me a 400 f/5.6 with a 0.6x magnification ratio, which beats both the RF100-400 (f/8, 0.41x) and the RF100-500L (f/7.1, 0.34x), but that's not something I can or want to spend €4000 on. It is something I want to try, though, so I'm going to keep an eye on a rental next spring.
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You can also add (after market) extension tubes to the 100-500. That lens works very well with them. You can also add the MR-14EXII macro flash using a 72mm step down ring on the 100-500 with no vignetting at close range.
 
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Despite initial responses from reviewers, direct comparison with the L II just proved that the lens is great modern optics with somehow good value. The II L perhaps was significantly better corrected in terms of distortion and offered slightly more charming bokeh. VCM is crisper in terms of resolution and offer better contrast where it matters the most, so overall, it\'s a great offering.
 
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Gino_FOTO said:
Despite initial responses from reviewers, direct comparison with the L II just proved that the lens is great modern optics with somehow good value. The II L perhaps was significantly better corrected in terms of distortion and offered slightly more charming bokeh. VCM is crisper in terms of resolution and offer better contrast where it matters the most, so overall, it\'s a great offering.
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Which lenses are you referring to?
 
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Could this be the generation of cameras/lenses that sees Canon outsourcing to China/Thailand to keep up with demand? I know Sony, Nikon, Fuji all do (without any effect on quality imo) and Canon has admirably kept manufacturing of the high end prosumer stuff on-shore for as long as they have.
 
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Gino_FOTO said:
Despite initial responses from reviewers, direct comparison with the L II just proved that the lens is great modern optics with somehow good value. The II L perhaps was significantly better corrected in terms of distortion and offered slightly more charming bokeh. VCM is crisper in terms of resolution and offer better contrast where it matters the most, so overall, it\'s a great offering.
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The resolution graphs between these lenses (RF 35mm f1.4 VCM L and EF 35mm f1.4 L) are so similar that it is unlikely that there will be any noticable difference in sharpness between using thse two lenses in real world photographs. The RF gains the simplicity of a native lens, which will not require an adapter. However, the newer RF lens is in fact heavier and longer than the EF lens. These differences are negated if you are using the EF lens on a RF mount camera with an adapter. The EF lens can be bought in the UK a bit cheaper than the new RF lens but that may change once supply meets the demand and the price drops a bit. The other issue with the Rf version is that it's not using the BR goo optic that was first used in the EF 35mm mk II version. It's a bit odd that it was ommited from the RF lens and does give the EF lens a slight advantage in certain shooting conditions.

I've not tried the new RF lens myself, but I have a friend who has and he's decided to keep his EF lens because he likes the look of the images. He already has a good copy of the EF 35mm f1.4 II L and this new lens isn't offereing anything he doesn't already have for the extra £££.
I am in the similar situation, I don't see any reason to side grade my current EF 35mm II L. if I was in the market for new 35mm f1.4, it would be a tough descision betweent this new RF version and the previous EF II version.

I think the purchase decision for both the RF 24mm f1.4 VCM and the RF 50mm f1.4 VCM L is an easier choice. It's vastly superior to any 24mm or 50mm lens in the EF portfolio. However, the 35mm is a more tight run race.
 
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TBH... this lens is really expensive for a 70-200 2.8 o_O.
I have checked the current Nikon sales and you can get a ~700g 70-180 2.8 for around 1k€ with TC compatiblity?! And the Z8 can be bought for around 3600€ new... and is available "_".

I m full into Canon... don't get me wrong here! But I don't support those stellar prices... will stick with my spartanious EF 70-200 2.8 non-IS
 
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AccidentalShawarma said:
Could this be the generation of cameras/lenses that sees Canon outsourcing to China/Thailand to keep up with demand? I know Sony, Nikon, Fuji all do (without any effect on quality imo) and Canon has admirably kept manufacturing of the high end prosumer stuff on-shore for as long as they have.
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I really don't think so .. that was never their L's but lenses like the EOS-M etc.
 
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fox40phil said:
I m full into Canon... don't get me wrong here! But I don't support those stellar prices... will stick with my spartanious EF 70-200 2.8 non-IS
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Agree. While the 70-200 Z MTF curves are fantastic, the pricing is ridiculous. However, Canon has stated in a quarterly call (ie to investors by implicitly also to all their customers) that they intend to make up in lost revenue from lower volume by charging more per product sold.
 
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kaihp said:
Agree. While the 70-200 Z MTF curves are fantastic, the pricing is ridiculous. However, Canon has stated in a quarterly call (ie to investors by implicitly also to all their customers) that they intend to make up in lost revenue from lower volume by charging more per product sold.
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The old technical term for this approach is called the "super profit zone". Where you sell less items for a higher price making more profit for less effort.
Basically, you are paying through the nose for the rarity of the item.
 
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fox40phil said:
TBH... this lens is really expensive for a 70-200 2.8 o_O.
I have checked the current Nikon sales and you can get a ~700g 70-180 2.8 for around 1k€ with TC compatiblity?! And the Z8 can be bought for around 3600€ new... and is available "_".

I m full into Canon... don't get me wrong here! But I don't support those stellar prices... will stick with my spartanious EF 70-200 2.8 non-IS
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The Nikon 70-180/2.8 lens isn’t comparable to this new Canon lens. The Nikon optic is a rebadged Tamron lens. It has inferior build, optics, af and no IS system.
It’s a great lens but it doesn’t compare to Canon’s finest 70-200 lens.
 
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I've had the older 70-200 2.8, even have the F4 version as well (but like the 2.8 much better), for a while and love that lens, it is simply great. I would have just stayed with it over buying this if it were not for wanting/needing the second shooter capability. I am excited to get it in my gear box. My only regret is not having it for this morning. I'm shooting the Turkey Trot in my home town today where hundreds to thousands of runners will be doing a 5k, giving me plenty of opportunity to really test the R1 in my somewhat normal conditions.
 
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I shot the event, took almost 6000 pictures (40fps is excessive I am starting to think) but only tossed a small % for being out of focus and some of those where my shooting too early or just panning the stream of runners and the AF simply not switching yet (again 40fps is pretty much excessive). Overall I am very impressed with the performance so far.
 
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