Canon Patent Application: Telephoto Macro Lenses

I haven't taken it in yet how different the R5 and the R5ii ergonomics is. Are they similar enough to keep the R5 as the second body?
I'm guessing that they are probably similar enough to keep the R5 as a 2nd body. But I also think that they have their differences, including a redesigned (how much I'm not sure of) menu system, so that I would much prefer to not have to remember how to work each one and not get frustrated switching back and forth all the time. And enjoying new (or slightly improved) abilities is a benefit. I happen to be able to afford the luxury of upgrading the R5 as well as getting the R5 II, and as I'm only a few years away from turning 70 it seems more appropriate to enjoy my remaining good (enough) years as much as I can while I still have some.
 
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I'm guessing that they are probably similar enough to keep the R5 as a 2nd body. But I also think that they have their differences, including a redesigned (how much I'm not sure of) menu system, so that I would much prefer to not have to remember how to work each one and not get frustrated switching back and forth all the time. And enjoying new (or slightly improved) abilities is a benefit. I happen to be able to afford the luxury of upgrading the R5 as well as getting the R5 II, and as I'm only a few years away from turning 70 it seems more appropriate to enjoy my remaining good (enough) years as much as I can while I still have some.
Problem with you youngsters is you don't have the flexibility of us real oldies.;)
 
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I'm HUGELY excited about both the 180/190mm lengths and the 300mm for macro.

At this point, I mainly want a lens that improves substantially on the color and contrast of the EF 180mm f/3.5 L Macro USM. I've owned that lens for a long time, and it is a critical lens for most of my insect work--I seldom use the 100mm length anymore as the extra working distance is critical for so many species I work with. While the 190mm f/4 2X is intriguing, I have my doubts about how well a 17-element design will perform, and suspect the 14-element 180mm might perform better optically. Unlike the 100mm focal length, I don't think this lens needs any value-add features (like 2X) to become a strong seller. While less important than getting a body with the features I want (now being fulfilled by the R1), the absence of an RF replacement was a minor consideration on whether to continue waiting to migrate to the R lineup. I hope, hope, hope that Canon will stop viewing their key macro lenses as amateur sales and make this lens the best they can, damn the price.

The 300mm design is a curiosity. When I bought the EF 300mm f/4L IS USM a long 26 years ago, I loved what it could do with my old Elan IIe. But I eventually outgrew it and replaced it about a dozen years ago. My fear is this will be designed with an amateur price-point in mind and won't be up to snuff. The old EF lens focused to 1/4 life size, which served me well for close-ups of hummingbirds and such. I'm not sure how easy it will be to follow dragonflies with such a narrow cone. If the optics are top-flight, I would probably buy this too, even if I didn't use it as extensively.

R1, 50mm, 180mm, some wide angles... darn, my wallet feels palpably lighter already! :D
 
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