!DX mk lll, where to go from there ?

I have 2 Mk 3 1dxs and one 7Dmk 2. I only rarely use the 7d at all and I have it since I bought the 1Dx mk ll. I use it instead of a converter.(seperate debate) My plan was to upgrade the 7d to a R7 mk ll when it became available. I was not too gone on getting an R1 until I started seeing Jan Wggener and Adrian Fopp reviews. I do wildlife including birds.
So I dropped into my Canon pro dealership where I get most of my gear. So I asked about the trade in values …..
With out even glancing at the 1dx I had with me I was told no one wants them , they are to heavy and the R6 mk ll was a better camera ……( never met this guy before) etc and I would be lucky to get 1000 euros off a 7500 euro R1.
I am neither interested in taking that much of a hit nor bothered. I am happy with my !dxs and I am not selling images any more and I guess the Mk lll will still be worth 1000 euros in 2-3 years.
Meanwhile the 1dxs new price has not been reduced nor am I seeing many second hand.
So whats actually happening. ?
Ironically there was a 45 year old F1 with an AE head and motordrive on sale in the same shop for 740 euro……..
it must be a lighter camera. … :)
 
First two posts covered pretty much everything. Check KEH/MPN to see what they'd give you and look at person to person sales.

If you even really want to move on as...

I am happy with my 1dxs
I am a big fan at upgrading for need. If you are happy...keep shooting. If you have a specific need...then upgrade if something fits that need.

I briefly had the 1DX III as a loaner to try it out. I opted for the R5 largely for the AF/Eye AF. It is impressive. Pre-capture/40 fps, etc. But are you really going to mess with happiness? ;) There needs to be a good reason, IMO.
 
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I have 2 Mk 3 1dxs and one 7Dmk 2. I only rarely use the 7d at all and I have it since I bought the 1Dx mk ll. I use it instead of a converter.(seperate debate) My plan was to upgrade the 7d to a R7 mk ll when it became available. I was not too gone on getting an R1 until I started seeing Jan Wggener and Adrian Fopp reviews. I do wildlife including birds.
So I dropped into my Canon pro dealership where I get most of my gear. So I asked about the trade in values …..
With out even glancing at the 1dx I had with me I was told no one wants them , they are to heavy and the R6 mk ll was a better camera ……( never met this guy before) etc and I would be lucky to get 1000 euros off a 7500 euro R1.
I am neither interested in taking that much of a hit nor bothered. I am happy with my !dxs and I am not selling images any more and I guess the Mk lll will still be worth 1000 euros in 2-3 years.
Meanwhile the 1dxs new price has not been reduced nor am I seeing many second hand.
So whats actually happening. ?
Ironically there was a 45 year old F1 with an AE head and motordrive on sale in the same shop for 740 euro……..
it must be a lighter camera. … :)
Speedfinder - if you are happy with the 1dx then by all means keep it. If you are going to 'upgrade' then
go with a mirrorless ... but don't forget that your lens(es?) won't fit directly on an R7m2/etc. Used gear,
especially if it is a 'generational change' such as from a DSLR to a mirrorless doesn't have much value.
One of the biggest features of the recent releases is the AF which is really important for wildlife and
birds. I have the R5m2 and I can even tell that the AF is better than the R7 - quicker and more precise.
I recently upgraded my software from Elements to LrC and that was a -huge- improvement.
- OR in the PNW
 
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Used gear,
especially if it is a 'generational change' such as from a DSLR to a mirrorless doesn't have much value.
That is partly true. If you sell it to a reseller as a trade-in, you get less in return. The reseller wants to make money from it and must take into account a price reduction if the gear is on the shelf for too long. But there are still plenty of people who are taking the step from mobile or point-and-shoot or step-in DSLR to more professional gear. They go for the DSLR and EF (or EF-s) because quality (read L lenses) can also be purchased there for relatively low prices.
You will get a better price if you sell it privately.
 
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In another of my hobbie,s we have a term "BSO" which is short for "Bright Shiny Object" ... you are correct, Candyman, and I
probably should have said "doesn't have much value (at least to me)". OTH if you paid multiple K amounts of money and
now you are finding it is only worth one K ... doesn't that qualify as "doesn't have much value"?
Please note - I am not talking about the quality of the images from a DSLR ... only the price. Heck, even a used R7
doesn't fetch much money in today's market. And it is certainly true that you can get a lot of camera for a lot less
money if you find a used DSLR. It is strange - at least to me - that places like B&H still have DSLRs on the shelf that
they want to sell for what I consider to be large amounts of money when compared to mirrorless equivalents.
OR in the PNW
 
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In another of my hobbie,s we have a term "BSO" which is short for "Bright Shiny Object" ... you are correct, Candyman, and I
probably should have said "doesn't have much value (at least to me)". OTH if you paid multiple K amounts of money and
now you are finding it is only worth one K ... doesn't that qualify as "doesn't have much value"?
Please note - I am not talking about the quality of the images from a DSLR ... only the price. Heck, even a used R7
doesn't fetch much money in today's market. And it is certainly true that you can get a lot of camera for a lot less
money if you find a used DSLR. It is strange - at least to me - that places like B&H still have DSLRs on the shelf that
they want to sell for what I consider to be large amounts of money when compared to mirrorless equivalents.
OR in the PNW
On the other hand I see that resellers are selling the 1DX Mark III with prices between €2600 and €3500. That depends on the condition (wear and tear) of the camera and the number of clicks. If it has a lot of wear and a high number of clicks, the assumption is that you would not be able to get more than €1500 for it. The price of €1000 seems very low. With little wear and fewer than 100K clicks, you could expect a trade-in price from the reseller of between €2500 and €2700.
But, I'm not the reseller. Of course, the reseller also takes into account that this type of camera has small customer interest. I have traded in a lot myself, keep an eye on this price development (compare), but the reseller determines the price and only 'you' decide whether it is a deal.
If the camera was bought last year for 7,500 euros and now yields at best 2,700 euros, that is of course still unpleasant.
 
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I just checked B&H Photo in NYC and according to their on-line quote tool a Canon EOS-1DX Mark III is worth between $1270 to $1500 depending on condition. Of course, you could get more in direct person to person sale.

To put things in perspective, the Canon R3 is worth $1735 to $1935 depending on condition as well. When I traded-in my R3 locally I received a $1900 store credit towards my R1.
 
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